Is Your Infertility & IVF Journey Just Another Way You're Feeding Your Addiction to Busyness? With Talie Miller

Finding Fertility

Is Your Infertility & IVF Journey Just Another Way You're Feeding Your Addiction to Busyness? With Talie Miller

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 Uncovering the Hidden Layers of Your Fertility Journey: Radical Responsibility, Intuition & Trust

Welcome back, conscious mamas-to-be! In this week’s Finding Fertility podcast, I take you behind the scenes of what it really takes to navigate your fertility journey with radical responsibility, trust, and deep surrender.

I know I promised you another Mabel, Monique, and Monica extravaganza (don’t worry, they’ll be back soon!), but life had other plans. Instead, I’m bringing you an incredible two-part interview with my mentor, Talie Miller—a woman who literally reads patterns for a living. And if there’s one thing I love, it’s spotting the patterns that keep us stuck in fertility limbo.

Listen to: Is Your Infertility & IVF Journey Just Another Way You're Feeding Your Addiction to Busyness? With Taile Miller

The Addiction to Busyness: When Doing More Isn’t the Answer

This episode kicks off with a hard truth: I built Finding Fertility off the addiction to being busy. Yep, I said it. Staying busy made me feel worthy. It made me feel like I was doing enough—until I realized that my constant motion was just a distraction from deeper healing.

Sound familiar?

So many of us Type A, hyper-achieving women fall into this trap. We throw ourselves into doing all the things—the perfect diet, the right supplements, the endless research—all in an attempt to outsmart infertility. But what if the real transformation happens when we stop doing so much and start being?

For me, surrender wasn’t just a concept. It became a necessity when my father came to live with me for end-of-life care. I had no choice but to slow down, let go of control, and truly embody the trust I talk about. It was in that deep surrender that I realized—this is the missing piece.

Radical Responsibility: Owning Your Journey

One of the most powerful things you can do on your fertility journey is take radical responsibility for your health, your healing, and your mindset. And that doesn’t mean blaming yourself. It means recognizing that you have the power to create transformation.

It’s easy to feel like the fertility world is stacked against us—confusing medical advice, conflicting protocols, and an endless stream of "just do IVF and hope for the best." But when you start looking at your journey through the lens of empowerment rather than frustration, everything shifts.

This is exactly why I brought Tali Miller onto the podcast. She’s been my mentor for over a year and a half, and she’s mastered the art of seeing the invisible patterns that keep people stuck. Her work is a mix of quantum psychology, body-based healing, and the ability to call you out on your BS (which, let’s be honest, we all need sometimes).

Slowing Down, Trusting the Process & Finding Your Own Path

One of the biggest themes in this episode? The absolute necessity of slowing down and letting things unfold in divine timing.

Tali talks about how we, as modern women, want all the answers right now. We’re conditioned to believe that if we can just figure it all out, we’ll finally get what we want. But true healing doesn’t happen on a rushed timeline.

It’s about consistency, trust, and learning how to listen to your body instead of frantically searching for the next magic bullet.

Here’s the truth:

✨ Your fertility journey isn’t about waiting. It’s about preparing.
✨ The body is not the enemy—it’s working for you, even when it feels like it’s failing you.
✨ You don’t have to “fix” yourself to get pregnant. You just need to remove what’s blocking your body’s natural ability to conceive.

That’s why I created the Six Essential Steps to Creating the Family of Your Dreams. When you focus on these foundations—diet, rest and recovery, energetics, awareness, mindset, and surrender—you give your body everything it needs to thrive.

Ready to Go Deeper?

If you’re feeling that pull to shift from overthinking and stressing to trusting and thriving, I’ve got you covered:

💡 Need a clear first step? Grab the Six Steps to Boost Your Embryos—a simple yet powerful workshop to optimizing your fertility.

💡 Looking for a holistic approach? Check out Fertile Body for physical support and Fertile Mind for mindset and energetics.

💡 Want to go all in? My signature D.R.E.A.M.S. course is designed to help you take radical action and transform your fertility journey from the inside out.

And if you need personalized guidance, you can always join a community session or book a one-on-one call with me.

The Key Takeaway

Transformation doesn’t happen overnight. It happens in the tiny moments when you choose trust over fear, surrender over control, and self-compassion over self-doubt.

So take a deep breath, conscious mama. You are exactly where you need to be. And I’m here to help you every step of the way.

P.S. If you loved this episode, don’t forget to leave a review on the podcast. It’s the best way to help other women find this work—and I’d be forever grateful.

👉 Listen to Part 1 of my conversation with Talie Miller : Is Your Infertility & IVF Journey Just Another Way You're Feeding Your Addiction to Busyness? 

Connect with Talie Miller: 

https://taliemiller.com/ 

https://www.instagram.com/taliemiller 

https://substack.com/@taliemiller 

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Let's Do This Together 💚 Monica

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Full Transcript: 

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Hello beautiful and welcome to the Finding Fertility podcast.

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I'm Monica, your mentor in uncovering the hidden layers of your fertility journey. Together, we'll discover the right path for you within the six essential steps to creating the family of your dreams. We'll ditch the overwhelm, tune into your intuition, and build a vibrant foundation for your fertility. Whether it's through gut health, subconscious healing, or energetic alignment, you can unlock your body's natural power to get and stay pregnant.

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Your fertility journey is all about radical responsibility and deeply believing that your body is on your side. It's time to stay consistent, embrace trust, surrender, and create the transformation you deserve.

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Finding fertility does not diagnose, prescribe, or treat any fertility issues. What we do is empower you to take control of your health by uncovering the root causes, holding you back. Let's do this together. Happy Friyay y'all! Welcome back to another episode of Finding Fertility. I'm your host, Monica Cox, and I'm so honored you are here, becoming the conscious mama you were born to be. I know I promised you another Mabel Monique Monica extravaganza.

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And it's really ironic because the third point was addiction to busyness. And when I tell you that I am still coming to terms with this as someone who definitely got her worth out of staying busy, I have to freely admit that I have grown finding fertility to what finding fertility is off of the addiction of being busy.

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And releasing those patterns has been a journey. And it really started with me getting into deep surrender. That's why surrender became us in dreams. And then when my father came to live with me for end of care, I got really pushed into surrender and had to let go of the busyness. And...

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this past week and a half has just been consumed with things that were not on my calendar and i just haven't gotten to be able to really create a well thought out story and that was my commitment to myself that i wasn't going to just push through these stories and these podcasts with Monique, Monica, and Mabel.

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And it just didn't get done to the standard that I want it to be. So that's okay because we have an amazing podcast over the next two weeks. I've split this interview because it's a long, a longer ish interview. So over the next two weeks, you actually get to hear me talk to one of my mentors, pretty much my main mentor over the past year and a half. Her name is Tali Miller.

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She reads patterns for a living. I obviously was very drawn to her because I can see patterns myself and that's how I'm so good at seeing the holes in your journey and being able to call you out on your BS. Well, a good coach or a good mentor always has a good coach or a mentor in their life as well. So I'm really excited to share this interview with you guys a little bit sooner than I thought I was going to without further to do.

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Today's part one with Tali Miller. Hello. Nice to meet you face to face finally after two years. I know, right? I was thinking that this morning. I was like, oh my God. Oh, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Good. Yeah, I'm excited for this. It's been really nice just to like slowly read it, right? Yeah. I'm on Substack. Just listening to your book once a week, kind of like a podcast. Yeah.

04:05
And I think especially for people who are really new to this concept, like it's good. Like, because you just need to digest this stuff like one little nugget. Exactly why I did it this way. I was like, I'm about ready to throw so much at people. I just feel like I can take them. I feel like people would be more consistent if

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they just turned it into a ritual like what you were doing. My intention is that people would listen to it like a podcast or do it together and wanna get the book and then go back and revisit it and highlight stuff and work through it. And I got criticized for it because people just want the book, right? They just wanted it. And I was like, right, but this is for people, this is for a broad audience, people who are newer, who are mid and who are well into their path. And I think there's gonna be

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a pace for everybody. But now that it's like available, people can just do whatever they want. But I'm glad I jump started it on, you know, halfway, almost halfway through the book at this point. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. But I think that's like the major issue for people, right? Especially us women who are super type A, we just want all the answers right now. And I know and you know, even better. Like you can't do it all. You cannot do everything. I'm going to frustrate the hell out of you by forcing you.

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to slow down and take this in and take time for yourself. Every week, I had to force myself to, like I have to show up still and make sure that I'm recording the content and showing up for myself and showing it for you guys too. You know, like I have maybe have a week or two out on a lot of this stuff and it's my own ritual too. Like it's as much as my, and I'm rereading some of this stuff. And I was like, God damn, like this just came through me. You know what I mean? I was like, I said that?

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I'm just reading the mistakes, you know, like I had this editor who read it five times and you just you can't see it. No. When you read it too much, you just can't see it. And I'm just like, whatever. I'm human. Fine. Exactly. I think that's the thing too, is just letting that perfectionism go when something's trying to come out of you and just being willing to be like, people call you out, like, oh, you spelled that wrong or this was wrong. It's like, oh well.

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like move on, like I'm not in high school, I'm not gonna get an F, I'm not gonna fail. Good thing I'm not turning it in as a dissertation or a degree PhD. I was like, yeah, how does that feel for you? How did it feel for you to notice that spelling error in the control chapter? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You know? I mean, I have had to let it go to the point of like the cover not being an inch perfect within its life.

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with the color being CYMK to the publishing, to me not wanting to do Amazon, but realizing they were the easiest way to go, to like all of it, I just had to surrender. And it was, it's been a very humbling process. But now I know like for book two, like the roadmap is just laid out for me now. It's a little bit easier, absolutely. So I always struggled to tell people what kind of work we do. Like when I am like, oh yeah, I have this mentor, her name's Sally. Oh, what do you do with her?

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I don't really know. I just show up. Want to psychology. Right? Yeah. So explain to the listeners in layman's terms, what your forte is. Okay. It's a great question. I think that's probably the reason why I have grown at a steady pace. Like I had this first initial hit on TikTok, which was unexpected. This is how you know, like it's just God, right? Like this is how you know.

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It is that the universe is at play. Like I had to pop off when I did and fill my schedule up to seeing the thousands of people that I met in six months to be able to write this book. Yeah. Right. And I would say it short term that frequency work is quantum psychology with body-based practices. And...

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You can call it energy medicine, you can call it woo, you can call it whatever you'd like. And a lot of people have been skirting around just being really straight with what this work is. They've been taking various approaches. In the past, this type of work has been relegated to a psychic, to a medium, to...

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or physical based frequency practitioners, EDMR, or people who are doing body somatic work or using machines, right? Like biofeedback and things like that. All of it's great. All of it's amazing. But essentially, if you are perceptually able to perceive patterns in the unseen and then attach those patterns to pain in the body, you're doing a quantum.

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psychology, psychosomatic based practice. And you can Google quantum psychology. I dub it as quantum psychosomatics. It's very like intellectually heady for a lot of people to get their head wrapped around. But if you break down the words, it's essentially peering into using an intuitive sense. It's perception works through the body. So the evolution of it has been new age. Okay. New age was star seeds.

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Okay, so New Age was the land of star-seedum, okay, and psychic tools and tarot cards and crystals and rituals and remote viewing practices and learning all of this. This is what took us the last 20 years, okay. Before that, very early, early before that, this was like standard stuff, like Tesla age, Tesla era. If you look into any of his archives, he's doing this type of work.

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You know, we have rife frequency machines killing cancer cells. Where did that information come from? So if we open our minds to the quantum mechanical aspect of things, which is the field that I play into, which is the cosmology, the unseen, playing with terms like the quantum vacuum and using physics terms like superposition and string theory and quantum entanglement, which has become a TikTok cliche.

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But there's actual physical science coming out that these are tools where information that isn't related to each other is all of a sudden changing through observation or measurement. So the next wave is energy medicine by way of what I believe is gonna be a quantum-based technology. However you...

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want to do that. You want to lay on a gravity mat. You want to lay on a gravity mat that's using subtle body frequencies to move energy in the field while you have a red light mask on your face listening to frequencies in your ear. Like, fine. You're in energy medicine all the time. If you're walking in nature, energy medicine. If you're listening to frequencies or music, you're in energy medicine. There's no difference.

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blending these fields, essentially, and taking this spiritual, it's part of what my mission is here is to bridge and synthesize in a grounded spiritual way, psychology, spirituality with a quantum physical approach. And so you can start to identify the stuff for yourself, clear your own patterns, come online and, you know, essentially just experience more joy, you know, create creativity, connection, synchronicity, all of that stuff.

12:03
And I give credit to people who have been, you know, some of the predecessors that have attempted to talk about a lot of this stuff and have been relegated to like Gaia, you know, you have Dr. Lipton, there's real science there. Unfortunately, you know, Dr. Joe Dispenza has been blasted six ways from Sundays, he's been infiltrated, but his information's good. You know, the neuroscience he talks about is real. You know, it's crazy, I saw him live, kind of on this weird...

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I don't know if I was working with you at the time, but I kind of like switched like I Started seeing things in a different way and I saw him live Just by chance. I couldn't even know he was really gonna be there I bought this ticket before they like announced he was gonna be there and his eyes were black Yeah, I mean I was listening to him and I was like you what you're saying

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I get it, I understand it, but your whole energy, your whole presence does not add up to me. So it was a weird, because no one was, you know, I hear people now say that about Joe, but at the time, like no one was really talking about it. And I was like, this is crazy. So I've actually seen that for myself. And I do, one of the modalities that I studied was psych K and Bruce Lipton is a really big fan of that.

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But as I was going through Psych K, I was like, you guys are a cult. I was like, this is crazy. Like you guys, this information that Psych K is should be in a book, should be taught to everyone who can read. And you're all gatekeeping it. And it's not expensive. Like, don't get me wrong. It's not crazy. But at the same time, I'm sitting there going like, you guys are a cult. Like you, this is not the vibes.

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a joiner mentality, which as you know, I have an entire chapter dedicated to that shit, like how this happens. And I'm the first person to say, I was like, fuck man, I am not your guru. Don't not put me on a pedestal because I'm going to fall right off of it. I promise you because I'm in this shit too. Like I'm teaching you. Yeah. I might be like, I have my, I have more practice, right. And, and, and more synthesization with how I see stuff and I can get right in there for other people, but doesn't make me better than you. It just

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makes me a little bit more practice than you. It's like 10,000 hours kind of vibes versus someone who's got one or two, you're gonna have a different nuance, right? So, but yeah, I mean, eventually everything kind of becomes a cult. I mean, I think, you know, psychology is starting to slowly turn its corner here into

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Union studies, which is why I never went back and got a master's or PhD. I was like, I looked at the curriculum and I was like, word, you guys have three semesters of union studies. I was like, why on earth would I go study a fucking man who is not going to teach me about quantum physics anyway? And I was like, great, I'm going to have to be in school for the next four decades if I want to do all this stuff. So I just had to create it. I had to create my own whatever. And people who are going to find me are going to find me. But yeah, I mean, you're going to have to, they're starting. So IFS was my...

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was my point, internal family systems is like, where hard-based psychology, like physics-based psychology or physical-based psychology, like the Western traditional Ivy League school system can start to get their head wrapped around IFS, the internal family systems, which talks about inner child work. And I was like, wow, groundbreaking, really? We've just now talked, we're now talking about inner kiddos, huh? Love that for us. And I just ran up against issues everywhere. I mean, I've been in like,

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curriculum after curriculum with the cognitive behavioral therapy to traditional psychology to depth psychology and all of it led me to theory. It's all theory. And so I was like, well, fuck, I can do that. My theory is quantum psychotermatic quantum psychology and you can pick your own, you know, there's essentially my thesis as slave and I'm basing everything off that. So if you just narrow your patterns down to five, then I think that's

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gives people parameters and it makes it less overwhelming because most people just don't know why they feel so shitty. Yeah. You don't know how they feel so separate. Yeah. And I think too, what I've discovered is people with, and I hate using this terminology, but I don't really know what else to say is like the big keys, they can look back and be like, oh, I understand why I'm fucked up. Or like people like me who didn't have those, but had that like very drawn out.

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emotional neglect, the parents weren't, they were present but not really, they were functioning alcoholics, they were fine, we never had like a real bad time. Harder. And I just could not understand why I felt the way I felt for so many years. And then obviously working with you and other, you know, just piecing it slowly together, it's like, oh, I get it now. I get it. Yeah, your cases are harder.

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It's harder for archetypes like you. It's very similar to me. Although there was moments of explosiveness like, oh, that checks out. That matches the trauma I feel inside. And it's just been this, once you see stuff, you can't unsee it, but you don't know what you're looking at because the gaslighting just gets so expert level and your brain almost just gets become so, it's so anesthetized by subtle.

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cues of this disconnection and trauma that you kind of don't know what's normal. So the normalization becomes this disconnection and this hypervigilance and this heightened state of like, every family is like that, of dysfunction, essentially. And so your body just doesn't know normalcy. So when this work starts and people actually start to regulate, the biggest challenge comes in being able to receive and not

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not panic when there's nothing to fix. Right? When shit's good. When shit's actually good and you're like, okay, so now what do I do? How do I do this? And it is the journey of the woman learning how to surrender and soften and receive pleasure. The journey of the man is to learn how to take responsibility.

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Is your partner willing, is your partner someone to die for? And is your partner as woman, someone you'd fully surrender to and trust? This is the archetype, okay? This is the hero's journey of women and men. And it doesn't have to be, it doesn't matter the dynamic of the partnership, heterosexual or not, it's an energetic arc, hero's arc. But I was like, man, once you get...

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First, you have to work through the layers, right? The superficial layers, the superficial energetic layers. And then you kind of get into, let's say the lineage layers, the generational layers, and then it becomes these, the meta layers, right? The dimensional layers, like you're more on purpose now. There's more synchronicity, there's joy, that nummification is gone. And now you're just in this place where you're like, yeah, the contractions are a lot less. I just feel a lot less.

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constrained by the density of what's happening around me. I'm able to find my zero point kind of all the time. Even if I'm cycling through those column spiritual contractions, expand that expansion and contraction that frequency just happens less as baby pulses. So you just don't feel as crazy or disconnected from yourself. And I think that's a win. If you can access baby parts of that, I would assume that you're a testament to that, right?

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Look at where we started versus where you are now. I mean, I can sense the change. I can feel the change. I see the change in you. And I mean, it's been an honor to witness. It's amazing to be here. Yeah. Thank you. So before we jump into some of the things that you get thrown in the fire for saying online, because there's a few hot topics that I just love because I'm sitting there going like, yes, that's how I felt too. Yeah. But I want to first really.

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Get into people that why is the body work so important? Because I think there's a lot of us that start this and we're astro-projecting and we're like meditating and we like get out of our bodies. And I've only heard two practitioners, yourself and another woman, talk about getting into your body, grounding, using that grounding energy, whether you're throwing a cord down, you've got roots in your feet, whatever it is, bringing that energy back up or running energy in your body, getting your higher self to be in.

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Like find your location. You talk about like, you know, locating yourself in space and time. Why is that a game changer for people? Yeah, it's such a good question. Well, first I fucked off the body for years because I was like, whatever. Like, I, it's all out there. You know, I have to connect to something that's out there. And I worked really hard at not avoiding having to be responsible for the body just because I just

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I didn't know. And again, this is just the arc of consciousness and the wave of it. You know, certified in myself in yoga helped because I started to understand the physiology of the body. But I really loved the psychology stuff of everything I was learning with my teacher who was a triple degree, you know, Pacific graduate student of Jungian whatever, right? I was going to go right down that path. Okay. I was like, here I'm going right there. And I was like, not going there.

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Everything I have is within me. I already know it. I just need to believe it and have it be revealed to me. So I hit a massive spiritual wall. I wasn't finding what I needed, just as a little backstory for people. I did not find relief in what I felt and knew was possible in a lot of the traditional places I was looking. At the time, I was like, I'm not really feeling the starseed stuff. People aren't talking in English.

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And yeah, I get some of the talk therapy that I spent decades in, but that wasn't getting me anywhere, it was keeping me in the loop. And then I would do yoga, but it felt really slow, really, really slow. So it wasn't until I, that I kind of accessed, I started to understand the body differently with a carp actor. So I've talked about Dr. Richard Bartlett before, I've mentioned him in the book. And he was the first person that started to blend the physics aspect of things, like the science stuff, talked about torsion. And I was like,

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God, wait, my mind popping off my body right now. My head is gonna spin off. Because he was super unserious and pretty certifiable, but also kind of a genius. Decided to go back to chiropractor school twice, or however many times I went through, went to med school twice just for fun. I'm like, okay. But I started to understand the spinal network system. He kind of started to access the nervous system and the spinal.

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network system. And the nervous system was like talking about Mars. No one really connected that. And I was like, wait, everything is the nervous system. How is no one talking about this? This is the superhighway of the body. This is how we do everything. Like this is physics. Like this is it. And so it just, it clicked for me. And I just went down into, I went hard into the physics aspect of stuff. And then I went into the chiropractic aspect of stuff. And then I found network spinal analysis work.

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And that, and then I had obviously after Richard's work was different versions of what this kind of frequency stuff was. It was a different way of reading people and then working on people. And I just really experienced a ton of detox. And so I started to understand like, I could only awaken to the level I was in my body, not out of it. Those things were work, they were commensurate on each other. And to, you know,

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the whole new age movement to their credit. I don't know if they knew better at the time, but you're taught to leave your body and look in, okay? You're taught to leave and astral project to get information which is incredibly, incredibly dangerous because you're just leaving your vessel open. It's like basically leaving all of your doors open in your car in the middle of a highway. All of your doors open all the time. Anything can come in, anything can take over, all these things. I mean, believe me when I say,

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when you really start navigating the multi-dimensional arts, it is the wild fucking west. And you need to know how to be in your body and be pretty fearless with anything that comes your way. And you're going to be up against, I mean, this is why like we'll always do probably individual sessions because I see new shit every time. And I was like, oh, wow, this is actually really cool. And I'm having to learn and talk to like different levels of

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people's shadows on how they did that. Like, how did you get in there? What is this? Like, what, how is that? And I just collect data and it just is like absolutely fascinating. So I really, really focused on the body because I didn't get it and I fucked it all off for a long time and I paid for it. So the more that I, I honored the body and I tell you guys about how to find and

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be in the center of your body, which I've honed in refined over time because no one's teaching it exactly how I'm teaching it. And if I can help people understand that like, okay, here's the concepts and the mechanics and the physics of what's happening. Okay. Just so you guys, I'm going to talk to your minds a little bit, right? But your spirit body is all around you. So why the hell would you want to leave it? It's like wifi and your iPhone trying to connect to each other. The longer, the further you are away from the

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Your job here is to stay dead center into the body for as long as you can and experience presence and then experience the fullness of who you are, right? In these moments. And people talk about that. They're like, Tali, I didn't even know what that fucking means. Like, what are you even saying? Like, I didn't even know how to be in my body. I didn't even know when I was out of it. And so I think most people don't, unless they're sick, unless they get sick. So when we're unwell and we're not present, we get sick. And that happens, I mean, patterns will push you out.

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And it's a constant push and pull really of like detoxing and then getting yourself back into your body and allowing those patterns to hit the physical. Because we could clear all we want at spirit level. We can just clear our faces off and it can become very addictive. And we're so used to doing that we feel like we constantly have to be in the deletion process or else we're not doing the work. And I can say that the rest and digest phase is equally as important as the clearing and deletion phase. So

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That's why I kind of have these intense bursts of, well, now I have a program where people will just be able to access monthly sessions and they'll be able to stay consistent with a lot of downtime in between. Because if you're new and you're going right into something that's full on, you're gonna detox like high holy hell. Some people will or some people not. And the level of detox is commensurate also to how much you're in your body.

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So we'll have to clear it spirit level for a while. And then the more you actually start to physically detox the body, the liver, the kidneys, the reproductive organ, the heart space, the brain, the more you start to detox the body, the more these patterns are going to reveal themselves. So it's just like, yes, it's cliche to talk about it peeling the onion, but it's like imagine you're a ball of light that's literally has been bound by rubber bands or strings.

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And there's this little crack of light that's kind of trying to come out and I can't get in there without like snip, snip, snip, snip, snip all the outside layers until you do that for yourself. So the body has to understand the assignment. It has to, what I call about ripple into the physical. So the body is time-based, your spirit is timeless. So if we clear at the timeless space which is where the quantum energy and the quantum mechanics and the quantum side of.

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what I do and what you're doing comes in, it has to ripple in to present time, into the physical body. And that's where it gets a little gnarly for people because it can get really uncomfortable. But it also like, watch your face change, watch your body change. Because all the, you're being caring, you're the latest rendition of your family heritage, right? Enter the 19 generations before you, your last name, you know, 75.0. You're the latest aggregate. Like who are you if you didn't have all that shit running?

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So that's the question. Like really, who are you without your patterns? Yeah. And then you proceed to answer that question. So really important to understand the mechanics of staying in the body because it's an infinitely in and then expansion out mechanic, not leaving the body to get information about yourself and then staying out there. You'll just in, which is again, why I don't, I just have a big, I have trepidation around psychedelics. Yeah.

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because of the shooting out of the body and seeing yourself from a different perspective. I love that people will get the shift they need. A lot of these filters are really heavy, and that's what people are looking to get through. They're looking to get through the identity filters of addiction and depression and suicide. Really helpful medicine to do that. But if you're sitting with Mama Ayahuasca on your 37th ceremony, I'm like, bro, what?

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Have you seen the Aaron Rodgers documentary? Oh my God. Bless it, man. I know. I just wanted to go and give him a hug. I mean, he's really trying, but I was like, I don't think this is sending the right message. He is so wildly out of his body. Here's a really, really, really good example, okay, of a seeker who has clear mother-father wounds. He's from like an hour, half an hour from where I grew up.

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I know exactly where he's from. I know this type. And the seeking and like the strict emotionally unavailable dad, all of the sensitivities and stuff, I'm really sensitive to that. But talk about somebody who has absolutely no idea how to reference himself in time. He has no identity. He has no idea who he is. And every time he does a plant ceremony or he does something, he's probably microdosing.

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anyway on a regular basis in between ceremonies and or doing ketamine. Cause you can see the frenetic energy. You can't even, you can feel the fact that something's off because he's so frenetic, the energy is so unstable. There's, but this is what, this is my whole point about doing plant medicines is post integration with someone knows who knows what the fuck they're doing and a lot of these people will go to Costa Rica or wherever the hell they're going, Peru and do and sit with all these different plant medicines.

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and not have a post integrative practice and get really, really, really distorted. It'll push you further and further and further at a time until you're just gone. Yeah. And I worry for him because you can still, you can tell that because he doesn't have a center, he doesn't have the mechanics and he hasn't been working with someone who is gonna help him integrate, the ego still hasn't, this ego aspect of him is still trying to hold on to his identity as a footballer.

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I was like, bro, let it go. Just like walk it right on out. But when that's you and that's who you think you are, he's still referencing off of wanting to be the best. Yeah. And I hope that people listening to this can see that in themselves of like, I know pretty much everyone who comes to finding fertility. They know stuff. They're very smart. They're very educated. They have all the information. They think they're doing all the practices.

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and they're still saying, I'm not pregnant yet. I haven't reached my ultimate goal. I'm holding on to these things so tightly and it's so hard to articulate to them. And I know you know, and I know that surrender and that letting go. And maybe that could be a good segue to some of the things that you've been thrown into the fire when you talk about women on the internet. I think deep down women wanna be controlled. Yes, there, that one. I was like, whoop.

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I will say it. But I have to say it, like my editor was like, girl, this is fire. I was like, let's go. Yeah, so what specifically? I've been dragged so hard. I just got dragged today. I actually love it. So bring it on. I was like, it's called opinions, honey. And I was like, I don't give a shit. You don't have to agree with me, but I'm here to help shake up what you believe to be true for yourself. And I'm here to shake up what people's understanding of having an ego death is. It's not what it is, it's identity deaths.

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Okay, it's identity deaths that the ego is referencing off of. Women are obviously grossly, I mean, I say obviously, because to me, I've gone through every iteration of archetype that has caused a lot of pain. And I think we're in a collective mother wound, we're in a collective feminine wound, and we're starting to so reference nature with regards to women. If you look at nature, and you look at

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the gendered aspect of nature, like F for female basically. Women are the females are vicious. They are vicious. And we're seeing that against each other because we're so tired and burnt out of being fundamentally let down by the masculine right now. Like we're fundamentally pretty burnt out. And I can say that the next arc of my life is...

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surrendering to a place within myself that I didn't know it was possible. Because you can only grow so much, you know, when you're constantly in self-reflective work, you can really only grow so much in a vacuum with yourself and your friends and stuff. And I think a lot of people will get to a certain place and women included and just say, I just don't have the strength anymore, I'm just too tired. I have to fight it all, I'm just done. It's easier for me to shut that off than to experience it. And I can say that's such a big miss

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what we're here to experience as women, which is full on pleasure and surrender and like allowing men to step up and experience responsibility and provision ship and care. And this is not like some patriarchal fucking, oh, you want to go back to the fifties, yada, yada. No, like you can read my content and come back to me and have like an, you know, an attempt to have some real conversation and discourse about what my points are and what I'm seeing in sessions. But

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after thousands at this point, I can say that there's a theme emerging. So I'm dealing with very intelligent, very resourceful women who fundamentally are exhausted, burnt out, and incredibly capable and would love nothing more than a strong ass, uber masculine man to be like, I got it. Let me prove it to you. They would love that shit. Like, please fuck, take it, lead, something, choose a restaurant, something. Take initiative.

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something, right? Like, leaves. And I think they get the, the, the warrior mama, the fighter, the warrior pattern inside of us gets kicked in and we start to drain the shit out of our feminine energy. And I can say specifically what, because I worked on several people and clients who had fertility issues or just we trying to get pregnant or want to be a mother and have gone through so many different rounds of whatever. And I look at the patterns.

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And like, I'll see now a combination of several things. Women feeling like they need to give their partner a baby in order for them to be truly happy. So something's already missing in the marriage. I was like, so you don't really wanna be a mother. You just wanna give him something or create a hook or whatever else. And I go, check that, because what baby wants to come into that environment? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm like, you know, mamahood is like the highest calling in the universe.

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Do you know that? If you check in with the frequency of Gaia, and she was like, talk about it, mama. I got 8 billion people. I got 8 billion babies. They all acting crazy. If you actually tune into the energy of the universe and you connect to the creator energy, create creative, create tricks, or whatever you guys want to call it, fine. But creation, creation energy, I'll say that. Men, male frequency as creator, and then creation.

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If you tune into that, you'll see that the frequency of actually guiding a soul towards their own autonomy is like the highest level mastery position you could have in universal order in this life as a female is to be able to have the opportunity to guide a soul, not to give your man a baby, not to have, oh, Pinterest pumpkin with my baby. Okay, not, not superficial shit and not having them be a reflection of you.

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You have to have zero ego and you also can't sacrifice yourself. Okay, we are going to pretend it's 1991 and you have to wait next week for the the next episode. Remember, I don't know if anyone's old enough to remember back in the days where you literally had to wait seven full days to watch the next 30 minute episode of like the Full House or something like that.

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I hope you have a beautiful week and until next time we'll see you then. Thank you once again for tuning in and becoming the conscious mama you were born to be. Remember I wasn't some magical unicorn who stumbled into fertility success. I stayed consistent, I put in the work, and I made it happen. And guess what? You can too. By discovering the right path for you.

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